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Post  hairy Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:22 am

..........that yesterday I was within 10 feet of someone for two hours who could shed a lot of light on the whole Justin/Japanese aircraft recovery thing, non other than the Solomon Islands Prime Minister, Derek Sikua, and because of protocol I could not speak to him. Rolling Eyes

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Post  Moxie1 Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:07 pm

Oh man Hairy the hell with protocal I would have just barge right up and said look here PM we need to get the skinny on this whole Taylan affair so here is what I want from you Sir.

So tell the World what really happen Laughing

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Post  hairy Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:45 am

The truth will out.................................from the Soloman Star News http://www.solomonstarnews.com/?q=node/16759

Justin Taylan and the Ballalae wrecks
Submitted by drupal on Thu, 2008-02-07 10:35. Private View

By ALBERT B. LAORE
Secretary
FAMOA Trust Board

THIS article is in response to the national and international interest of last year’s illegal entry of a chartered boat into the Shortlands plus the internationally false and misleading claims that followed by the person who chartered the boat, a Justin Taylan.
Mr Taylan apparently went there to film WW2 wrecks within the Restricted Areas. As a result, he was charged and convicted for illegally entering the country.
Under the Wrecks and Relics Act of 1980, Access to Restricted Areas of the Solomons is not permitted without lawful access and or approved permits, which also applies to media groups.
The penalties can include prison and or fines. Restricted Areas are also protected by a number of measures including filming and research laws plus copyright.
Filming and research require permits from the Prime Minister’s Office, Ministry of Education and Human Recourse Development under the research Act of 1982 and the National Museum and or their associated parties in respect of their rights, which are assigned from the Government’s National WW2 Museum project.
Mr Taylan’s interest in WW2 sites, wrecks and stories has also produced a business that he receives benefits from.
He has free sites and advertising sites where he sells photos, films and whatever else he can relate to WW2, in particular, information on wrecks.
He even has a credit card facility if you want to buy with a credit card, which is not so bad if he refrained from doing it illegally and unscrupulously without care to the harm he causes to the extensive work and great expense involved in developing and undertaking lawful developments.
He claims, apparently, to be a conservationist but I thought conservationists believed in concentrating on doing anything possible to conserve and preserve no matter where it had to be done as long as it was done, without notice of value or expense.
So why does he want this WW2 material to stay where it is, knowing full well it will just rot and corrode away or be destroyed and just wasted.
I believe he wants them to stay because it services his business of filming and photographing them.
After he has filmed everything he wants and exhausts his opportunities to feed his business, he will have no more interest with what the local people do with it, unless he can capitalise further on it somehow.
He claims his work, which includes filming and producing movies and articles, supports tourism but what he is doing is often the opposite.
He films WW2 wrecks and sites gets locals to provide their stories for information, then makes DVD movies etc for people to buy, so they can sit at home in the comfort of their lounge with a cold or hot drink and watch their interest on TV and not have to spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars to travel and see these things.
I don’t believe for a second he supports tourism, he just uses words in a clever way to mislead people so that he can go about his business and have a free run.
Mr Taylan apparently had little if any respect of our country’s laws. He knows we don’t have the funding to enforce all our laws especially when there are more important matters to attend to.
SMILING PHOTOS
Mr Taylan may think because he has visited the National Museum and has some smiling photos with staff member, that he has a free run within the Solomons.
The National Museum has stated they do not consent to the unlawful actions of what he has done or is doing.
He was warned several times since 2003 of the Wrecks and Relics Act and of filming and research laws and that the wrecks on Ballalae Island were protected within a Restricted Area, requiring special permits to access the wrecks and film them.
Also the wrecks and filming rights were already assigned to a development project which included recoveries and exportation.
Despite these warnings he went off and accessed the wrecks taking photos, that he then put on his business site, not once but several times and he wants people to think he is an innocent tourist.
He claims he wants to protect the WW2 Wrecks but he does the opposite and exposes them to more harm from illegal intruders.
The Government implemented laws that protect the wrecks in Restricted Areas, which also includes protecting people from harm.
I understand that filming and publicly exposing something of worth, that is in a place that has no inhabitancy or security is stupid to say the least, because once you release the film showing what is there and where it is, you are inviting trouble. In this case why not just put up a sign saying scrap metal, come and cash in or WW2 souvenir hunter’s here’s more.
He may claim that others have done this before him but the facts are he is making it far more obvious and easier to find, by publicising his photos, stories and filming.
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Continued...............

MISREPRESENTATION
This year I became aware of more misrepresentation he is making, trying to play down his activities in the Solomons so that he can hide his true nature and what he is really all about.
Mr Taylan may have fooled many including journalists with his sweet talk and how he draws attention away from his WW2 story and filming business, by creating false and misleading stories that unfairly harm and or create great setbacks, discomfort and expenses to innocent parties and development projects.
Mr Taylan has no right to be involving himself in our country’s affairs or telling us what we should or shouldn’t do.
He had entered the Shortlands on or about the 5th November 2007 and was later charged and convicted with illegal entry into the country, via the Shortlands from PNG.
The Minister, Senior WW2 Government officials and I my self arrived on Ballalae on or about the 6th November to attend a FAMOA Council of Chiefs meeting.
Also, the Minister wished to attend a WW2 Memorial Service. Upon our arrival, Mr Taylan was found to have been involved in accessing the Restricted Areas without a permit.
Lofung local Police and a Government WW2 Officer searched Mr Taylan’s charter boat on or about the 6th November 2007 and found on board illegally removed WW2 material from Ballalae wrapped up in plastic and placed out of obvious sight.
At the same time of the search, a local Ninamo Otuana was also found to be on board the boat with Mr Taylan, apparently for general conversation.
In a recent statement associated to Justin Taylan, it was stated, “police testified that nothing illegal was found on board the boat” but this again shows the manipulation of information to give followers or readers a false impression of him.
He does not mention which incident or which Police. My facts in this matter are correct and can be upheld.
Mr Taylan provided a letter of apology on or about the 7th of November 2007, which was given to the Minister.
The Minister, as an act of mercy, accepted the apology, cautioning him that his disrespect would not be tolerated in the future. This issue went without charge but the event did occur.
The Minister had believed Mr Taylan seemingly expressed remorse, unfortunately he was unaware of this individual’s nature and how he would play this act of kindness in the following months.
The illegally removed WW2 material found on board was confiscated by Lofung Police and returned to the National Museum.
Mr Taylan also surrendered 2 x video cassettes and 1 x camera chip. As far as smuggling items out of the country, I guess that is a matter we didn’t get to conclude as it was obviously halted before it could happen.
I think intelligent people can think of what was intended and or could have happened.
Regardless of the Minister’s wavier to charge him on this matter, it does not change the facts that the material was illegally removed from a WW2 wreck site and found on board Mr Taylan’s chartered boat.
At this time there were “No” wrecks being moved in recovery or salvage operations.
A small recovery from Ballalae commenced on or about the 15th November 2007. Which, was not prior to Mr Taylan’s arrival nor associated to his detention or charge, as he had implied to the international media.
Upon further research, it was found that Mr Taylan was also involved in an earlier 2003 incident with the Shortlands local police concerning him accessing Ballalae Island without proper immigration clearance and permits.
FALSE STATEMENT
The biggest misrepresentation, false statement and or manipulation of information Mr Taylan gave to the world, is when he claimed on or about the 14th Dec 2007 to the international public that he had stumbled on an “illegal” salvage operation and implied he was falsely “Held Captive” as a result.
People should take careful note of the dates and sequence of events and you will see how he has manipulated events that occurred after he was taken into custody and not before as he has falsely implied in his 2007 International media release, which has since been altered but without a public apology for his original media release being wrong.
Apparently the original statement falsely portrayed and or implied the Solomon Islands and its judicial system as corrupt and that it would unlawfully harm the innocent.
This would also represent the general population and country as unwelcoming to tourist, which greatly contradicts his portrayed tourism ambitions.
Our country has worked extremely hard to get recognition for the great improvements to our Government Officials, Judicial system and development projects, which was apparently discredited by Mr Taylan’s original false media statement.
Mr Taylan claims that removing the wrecks will disadvantage tourism to the local people.
To this I say, people ask your chiefs and elders how many times this has been stated and promised since the wrecks were left after WW2 and again when the Wrecks and Relics Act of 1980 was made.
I believe the Wrecks will turn to dust while you wait, however, the National and regional tourism was also considered and addressed in the National Museums WW2 Project, just in case.
Mr Taylan also claims to be a protector of the wrecks but his actions again clearly showed that this is also false.
He has interfered to discredit the lawful recovery work that would greatly assist in the conservation of the wrecks rather than simply perishing where they sit from corrosion, vandalism, scrapping and destruction by natural events as common as falling trees and not so common as tsunamis.
Also, it must be noted that our country’s laws for Restricted Areas and filming is a measure of protection that protects the material and its location from unscrupulous individuals even tourist, visitors or Solomon Islanders to access the wrecks to collect parts to sell as souvenirs which, vandalises and destroys what is left for any potential large scale benefit such as the National Museums WW2 project.
I believe, Mr Taylan together with a local critic Ninamo Otuana, contributed to the poor, negative and bias reporting of last year’s salvage operations created by local media, considering how some local media representatives hastily, negligently and unfairly reported on the project, failing to research their material to confirm fact from fiction which has caused damages, expenses and harmed innocent parties.
Noting that this project was developed under the supervision of the Attorney Generals Office, Commissioner of lands, Ministry responsible and was public knowledge since 2003, gazetted in 2005 and was endorsed by several consecutive Governments with an agreed MOU, that outlined immense benefits to the Shortlands and nation, upheld not once but twice in meetings by the FAMOA Council of Chiefs representing the Shortlands communities.
CAREFUL PLAN
1. The Government’s WW2 National Museum project is absolutely not an over night secret deal, as a very few have claimed.
It is a carefully planned and lawfully approved National project that has taken many years to develop.
The initial starting point of the project is between FAMOA Council of Chiefs representing the Shortlands and the National Museum.
2. On the 7th June 2005 the Commissioner of lands holding a perpetual title for Ballalae, issued a special lawful permit that gave the National Museum the right to access it for the recovery of WW2 material.
Plus, this was further improved when endorsed under the FAMOA/Museum MOU with the full Council of Chiefs approval to access the land for the recoveries with the Council fully accepting responsibility to resolve any land issues.
It was agreed that FAMOA Council of Chiefs would allocate the development funding to each village community with consideration in the disbursement to cater for the land titleholders.
3. A public notice was gazetted in the Solomon Star by the Permanent Secretary for the Ministry of Culture and Tourism on or about 17th Nov 2005 concerning the National WW2 project, objectives, provisions and offences under the Wrecks and Relics Act.
4. The project was devised to show the country’s creativity and independence by utilising a local resource, being the abundant deteriorating WW2 material, before it is totally lost or perishes beyond usefulness.
Also it is to establish a WW2 National Museum, opportunities for International exchange and rotation of exhibits, opportunities for regional satellite WW2 museums, improved tourism opportunities, development and assistance opportunities to the relevant assisting communities.
There are also opportunities for assisting economic and infrastructure stability and or growth, educational benefits, historical preservation nationally and internationally, promotion of the Solomon Islands, employment, local transport and shipping hire, and more.
Including reimbursing, compensating and rewarding those who took the initial risks invested their money and time to make it happen.
5. Only after extensive and expensive formalising of the lawfully relevant issues and concerns, a final MOU was signed between FAMOA Council of Chiefs and the National Museum on the 7th June 2006.
FAMOA is extremely grateful for the project and it intends to seek its own legal action against those who falsely and unfairly misled the nation and international communities.
The FAMOA Council of Chiefs representing the Shortland’s communities, fully supports the National Museum’s project and the people associated to it, they are doing a great job, which is difficult, and it is unfair that they should have to endure criticism from a few bias reports, which were created negligently without reasonable consideration or proper research.
Professional and respectable individuals can clearly see there was great consideration, planning, expenses, and sacrifices made by all to develop the project to be a win win for the Shortlands, the nation and internationally.
Considering the ever-growing scrap drive in the Pacific regions and how the majority thinks it is time for a good clean up.
The National Museums Project has already attempted to save the Material assigned to the project and if it had not been in place, people would have torn apart those deteriorating corroding wrecks that trees are falling on, that vandals are pulling apart and cutting up.
These WW2 Wrecks would have silently, piece by piece, ended up in the scrappers bin.
The National Museum is doing its best to monitor the scrapping and save material but how do you argue with people when they ask “why can we not obtain a small benefit for the scrap before it is totally rotted and corroded back into the ground”.
This is one of the reasons the National Museum had set its goals of preserving a manageable collection for the National WW2 Museum and the Shortland’s satellite Museum.
The Museum and all of us know in time, that what cannot be managed will certainly perish


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Well said.

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Post  Moxie1 Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:19 am

Yea I was sent a copy of it before it was posted on Wixs hmmm now haven't I been saying all these things for the past few years now. I wonder how Jungle Bob is doing I bet if I know him he is laughing his ass of over this one.

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